66 Toro Ignition system question

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66 Toro Ignition system question

Postby followme21 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:50 pm

Is the coil on a 1966 Toronado externinal regulated? If so where is that external regulator? and what does it look like? Thanks in advance.

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Re: 66 Toro Ignition system question

Postby followme21 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:24 pm

Sorry I meant to ask if the coil is externaly "Resisted".....Is the coil externaly resisted? and if so where is it? and what does the external resister look like? Thanks

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Re: 66 Toro Ignition system question

Postby Schurkey » Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:13 am

GM uses a "resistor wire" instead of a plain wire with a discrete resistor.

The wire will be fabric-covered.

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In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011.
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Re: 66 Toro Ignition system question

Postby xgecko » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:44 am

Personally I highly recommend replacing it with a modern system. If you can live with the non-original look go with an HEI distributor, if you require stock appearance go with a modern points replacement module that keeps the distributor looking stock while replacing the internals with a modern pointless pickup.

Keep in mind that HEI means High Energy Ignition and it produces a better spark which improves performance. You can implement the same thing with the alternative, it just costs more and takes more parts.
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Re: 66 Toro Ignition system question

Postby Twilight Fenrir » Sun May 08, 2011 11:51 am

Say, did you ever find that resister? I'm swapping my ignition over to Pertronix Ignitor II, and am all done except for bypassing the resistance wire.

It goes right into a black wrap just an inch or two away, and I followed it all the way to the fuse block, but I don't see it exposed. And I really don't want to slice open that entire wrap to look for it...

Just a general where-abouts would be appreciated if you know it. My service manual has it in the wiring diagram, but it doesn't show where it is in the car itself...
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In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011.
Location: Gig Harbor, WA

Re: 66 Toro Ignition system question

Postby xgecko » Sun May 08, 2011 12:24 pm

The wire is the resistor.

See this site for more details:

http://www.oldengine.org/unfaq/hei.htm
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Re: 66 Toro Ignition system question

Postby Twilight Fenrir » Sun May 08, 2011 1:29 pm

Oh... Damn... I thought it would just be a short length somewhere in-line... Well, that makes things a little more difficult...

Thanks for the link! :D
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Re: 66 Toro Ignition system question

Postby Schurkey » Sun May 08, 2011 3:18 pm

All the more reason to dump the points or cheap electronic conversion, and go with an HEI or other full-voltage ignition system that will not fry at 18+ volts.

Better spark, too.

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Re: 66 Toro Ignition system question

Postby TxGr8White » Mon May 09, 2011 6:04 pm

HEI is the way to go on these cars. I installed an HEI Distributor on my '67 Deluxe and was even able to slightly modify the dual snorkel aircleaner to make it fit - looks stock, performs better....
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Re: 66 Toro Ignition system question

Postby Twilight Fenrir » Mon May 09, 2011 6:12 pm

TxGr8White wrote:HEI is the way to go on these cars. I installed an HEI Distributor on my '67 Deluxe and was even able to slightly modify the dual snorkel aircleaner to make it fit - looks stock, performs better....

I'll get to that when I rebuild my engine, for now, the electronic conversion will suffice quite nicely.
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