Hey mates newbee here with a question?

[jabberwoki]

OK first of i have a 68 Eldorado not a Tornado(don`t be hating) but there does not seam to be a support group for these so i`m going to rely on you blokes. But before you start throwning darts i do have a 67 442 so i`m not all that bad.
So here`s the delima i`m rebuilding my front end and front brakes so i`ll having all the drama of expensive bearings and new rotors unavailable. I got a new bearing kit from the local parts store but the bearings were nothing like what came out so i`m stuck with haveing to use $480 worth of original sealed units then as i said before no rotors!!!. I ve heard that 70 eldos use different spindles so i looked at one and noticed that the calipers are different so i looked up the wheel bearings for a 70 and they list the same ones that they gave me originaly that did not work on my 68.
So i`m thinking that the bearing set up in the spindles themselves must be different and the parts store didn`t know any better?
Long story short what is the best readily available disc brake / wheel bearing set up for my car?

[Chazzer]

Man, I love the 67-68 Eldos...

Truthfully I hate to look at them....the urge to go bring one home is just way to strong everytime I view one...

Anyways, The good Doctor David Breznick pretty much explains it all for you in this article.


http://www.breznick.com/toronado/brakes/index.htm

[jabberwoki]

Come on overe to the dark side jim!!! These cars are so cheap it`s almost funny!

[Twilight Fenrir]

Well, I don't kniw anything about the eldo's specifically... But, I just bought everything I need to convert my 66 toro to disc in the front. I got parts for a 69 toro, they were fairly reasonable, everything minus the wheels stacked up to about $500 on RockAuto. Had to get knuckles from a salvage yard though.

If the eldo is like the toro, in 68 I believe they had the one-piece hub/rotors, which are essentially irreplaceable. The '69+ have seperate parts, which are readily available. Assuming the eldo is identicle to toro's, you'd need new knuckles, bearings, rotors, and callipers. The knuckles being the only tricky part. Bearings are readily available at rockauto.

Hope that helps.

Beautiful car by the way.

[Chazzer]

Believe me Jabber, I would love to catch you on the dark side in my very own 67-68 Eldo.

You know how it goes though...with a couple classics sittin' around here already...it's not gonna happen no matter how bad I want one or how cheap they could be had...

I couldn't even imagine the fireworks around here the day I approach my wife with the news that I must have a third relic from the 60's....

[jabberwoki]

Believe me Jabber, I would love to catch you on the dark side in my very own 67-68 Eldo.

You know how it goes though...with a couple classics sittin' around here already...it's not gonna happen no matter how bad I want one or how cheap they could be had...

I couldn't even imagine the fireworks around here the day I approach my wife with the news that I must have a third relic from the 60's....

HA! Yeah i`m with you i`m trying to discourage what would be my 13th!! wreck its a 70 cougar i`d love to make a 70 eliminator 428 4 spd clone!

[jabberwoki]

Well i`ll be pulling a pair of 70 eldo spindles off this week end i curious to see the bearing set up.
The 68 stuff is $340 bearings $400 rotors!!!! Thats so not going to happen!

Well, I don't kniw anything about the eldo's specifically... But, I just bought everything I need to convert my 66 toro to disc in the front. I got parts for a 69 toro, they were fairly reasonable, everything minus the wheels stacked up to about $500 on RockAuto. Had to get knuckles from a salvage yard though.

If the eldo is like the toro, in 68 I believe they had the one-piece hub/rotors, which are essentially irreplaceable. The '69+ have seperate parts, which are readily available. Assuming the eldo is identicle to toro's, you'd need new knuckles, bearings, rotors, and callipers. The knuckles being the only tricky part. Bearings are readily available at rockauto.

Hope that helps.

Beautiful car by the way.

[Twilight Fenrir]

Iirc, 70 used a twin-piston calliper, which are difficult to get parts for... Could be thinking of something else though... I know for my purposes, the 69 was the best possible year.

[68 Toro]

Hi Jab,

That's a wonderful car, your Eldorado. I'd like to believe that we TOA members don't exclude our Caddy Cousins.

Please have a look at my Toronado brakes website, and keep us posted on your progress. Thank you Chazzer for the plug.

[69W34]

" Iirc, 70 used a twin-piston caliper," this statement is not correct the 66-67-68 used the single bearing, spindle and hub. However the 67 68 with disc also used the same spindle and bearing with the one piece disc hub assembly this was a 4 piston caliper. This applies to the Eldo too.

The 69-78 Toro use a single piston, this too applies to the Eldo there was never a twin piston caliper used on the first or second Gen cars

It is true that any 4 piston system applies more pressure thru the pads to the disc hence better stopping power, but one again the bean counters are on the job.