My radiator broke...

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My radiator broke...

Postby Twilight Fenrir » Tue May 17, 2011 7:01 pm

I was going about replacing all the 40 year old hoses on my cooling system... didn't want to spring a leak on the road and burn out my engine... Aaaannddd... I broke it.

While removing the hose between the tank-heater and the inlet ontop of the engine, I accidently broke the tapout on the bottom of the radiator that feeds it. This is also where the bleeder is located. So, I need a new radiator.

How can I tell if I have a 3, or 4 line radiator? Does it make a diifference when it comes to replacing it? Can you even find a 4-line anymore? I've been digging around for one (If I didn't have one, I'd like the upgrade) and I can't find one just yet.

I've got the 7-blade fan, which I know is one of the things that indicates a 4-line, but I don't know if having that makes it absolute or not.
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Re: My radiator broke...

Postby mark » Tue May 17, 2011 7:41 pm

i have a 1966 toro radiator and 1 chome rim and ring,i have to see if its 3or4 row.mark cambridge mn.rim is 1967 -70

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In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011.
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Re: My radiator broke...

Postby xgecko » Wed May 18, 2011 6:20 am

Ouch. That is not good. One option you might consider is to see if a local radiator shop can repair it.

I recently recored my radiator with a moderately high performance core. Can't remember what the line count was, but I do know it was the optimal solution and it cost me about $600.

I then got my second car which turned out to have been recored already with the same brand but a lower performance core.

My search is for the mounts, if anyone knows where they can be found I would love to know.

Good luck, Twilight, and I sure hope you find a reasonable solution soon.
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Re: My radiator broke...

Postby Twilight Fenrir » Wed May 18, 2011 7:16 am

I'm just gonna get one from o'reily's. $200, 3-line, copper. Will replace it later if need be. I'm.not going to have mine repaired, the thing just disintigrated, it can't be in good enough shape to salvage.
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Years Owned: My first Toronado was a 1968 W-34 with the bucket seats and center console... (weeps gently) It was a New England rustbucket in 1982 after less than 14 years. So sad. But it is what infected me and before I knew it I had another '68, a '69, a '70 and eventually inherited a friend's '67 and another friends '73. After buying my brand new Grand Prix in 1988 I retired the last of my Toronados and pulled the 455 I had rebuilt along the way and put it into storage in a friend's barn where it is to this day.
In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011.
Location: Gig Harbor, WA

Re: My radiator broke...

Postby xgecko » Wed May 18, 2011 7:46 am

You found on on Oreilly's? What is the Part Number? I searched in the past and could never find one that fits. How did you manage it?
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Re: My radiator broke...

Postby Twilight Fenrir » Wed May 18, 2011 8:29 am

xgecko wrote:You found on on Oreilly's? What is the Part Number? I searched in the past and could never find one that fits. How did you manage it?

I typed in radiator under my 66 toronado. :P

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detai ... &ppt=C0331
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Years Owned: My first Toronado was a 1968 W-34 with the bucket seats and center console... (weeps gently) It was a New England rustbucket in 1982 after less than 14 years. So sad. But it is what infected me and before I knew it I had another '68, a '69, a '70 and eventually inherited a friend's '67 and another friends '73. After buying my brand new Grand Prix in 1988 I retired the last of my Toronados and pulled the 455 I had rebuilt along the way and put it into storage in a friend's barn where it is to this day.
In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011.
Location: Gig Harbor, WA

Re: My radiator broke...

Postby xgecko » Wed May 18, 2011 8:57 am

Hmmm. Did they have smaller radiators than the 68-69? Mine is 34" between the tanks, the one you show is about 28"... Have you measured the one in your car to see if it matches up?

I do see that it is listed as being compatible with 66-67, so perhaps they do use smaller units. They do not list anything for my car or I would have probably considered it given the $400 difference... although I did get a higher capacity core that will handle higher horsepower limits so it may not really matter.
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Re: My radiator broke...

Postby Twilight Fenrir » Wed May 18, 2011 10:16 am

No, I didn't check, but I did just order one. Their site says it will fit, if not, I bring it back it kind of stands to reason '66/67 would be smaller though, we have those popup headlights, and the massive vacuum tanks that I don't think are in your 69.

We'll see....
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Years Owned: My first Toronado was a 1968 W-34 with the bucket seats and center console... (weeps gently) It was a New England rustbucket in 1982 after less than 14 years. So sad. But it is what infected me and before I knew it I had another '68, a '69, a '70 and eventually inherited a friend's '67 and another friends '73. After buying my brand new Grand Prix in 1988 I retired the last of my Toronados and pulled the 455 I had rebuilt along the way and put it into storage in a friend's barn where it is to this day.
In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011.
Location: Gig Harbor, WA

Re: My radiator broke...

Postby xgecko » Wed May 18, 2011 10:45 am

Yeah, I did that with an oil pan at Autozone. The listing claimed it fit but I was really skeptical and I was vindicated when it did not have the relief for the driveshaft. It is certainly possible that your radiator is indeed smaller, if so you will be in good shape and if not you can simply return it to your local store with no shipping. Gotta love that!
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Re: My radiator broke...

Postby mark » Wed May 18, 2011 11:14 am

Twilight Fenrir wrote:No, I didn't check, but I did just order one. Their site says it will fit, if not, I bring it back it kind of stands to reason '66/67 would be smaller though, we have those popup headlights, and the massive vacuum tanks that I don't think are in your 69.

We'll see....

66 is 34 in wide


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