Eldorado brake calipers

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Re: Eldorado brake calipers

Postby dap8 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:23 pm

Problem solved. Left side hydraulic hose was rust clogged so fluid could not return and release left side brake pressure. Ordered hose from Rock Auto: $19.58.

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Re: Eldorado brake calipers

Postby Otto Skorzeny » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:29 pm

Probably should do the other side hose, too.

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Re: Eldorado brake calipers

Postby gmrocket » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:22 am

Question to Bruce and all: I'm pondering a front disc brake conversion on my '67 Deluxe but really hate the idea of having to swap wheels because of the clearance requirements of the discs/calipers vs. the original drums (and I have two sets of chrome drum wheels I don't want to give up). My local hot rod shop, who has experience in Toros, Eldos and GMC motorhomes says a spacer of maybe 3/4" plus longer studs on the front will allow continued use of the drum-style wheels. Anyone try this or know for sure?
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Re: Eldorado brake calipers

Postby Mikel » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:57 am

gmrocket wrote:Question to Bruce and all: I'm pondering a front disc brake conversion on my '67 Deluxe but really hate the idea of having to swap wheels because of the clearance requirements of the discs/calipers vs. the original drums (and I have two sets of chrome drum wheels I don't want to give up). My local hot rod shop, who has experience in Toros, Eldos and GMC motorhomes says a spacer of maybe 3/4" plus longer studs on the front will allow continued use of the drum-style wheels. Anyone try this or know for sure?


I made 1" spacers for my '66, with the idea of running disk brakes and drum rims in the front. With some caliper grinding, the rims did fit, but I ended up using disk brake rims (I did this because I used similar calipers with larger pistons).

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Re: Eldorado brake calipers

Postby gmrocket » Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:14 am

Thanks Mikel - appreciate the quick reply and confirmation that it's doable. Probably would make the stance look a little better up front too.
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Re: Eldorado brake calipers

Postby Mikel » Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:15 am

gmrocket wrote:Thanks Mikel - appreciate the quick reply and confirmation that it's doable. Probably would make the stance look a little better up front too.


I very much like the wider stance up front. No noticeable effects on torque steer or braking.

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Re: Eldorado brake calipers

Postby gmrocket » Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:21 am

Cool - and I keep my two sets of drum chrome wheels and trim rings too! Thanks again...
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Re: Eldorado brake calipers

Postby Mikel » Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:59 pm

Please let us know how you like the upgrade once you finish.

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Re: Eldorado brake calipers

Postby gmrocket » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:46 am

Mikel and all,

Just obtained the front end and all brake plumbing from a '71 Eldo. Will start disassembling the parts to take to sandblasting while obtaining all the new stuff I need (bushings, rebuilt calipers, rotors, bearings, ball joints, tie rod ends). My car is still with my restorer but assuming I see it later this summer, my intent is to have everything ready for the front-end disc brake swap. My understanding is that although I have everything off the donor car, I only need the upper control arms and steering knuckles (and associated hardware) for the suspension part of the swap, correct? Thanks in advance!
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Re: Eldorado brake calipers

Postby Mikel » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:17 am

gmrocket wrote:Mikel and all,

Just obtained the front end and all brake plumbing from a '71 Eldo. Will start disassembling the parts to take to sandblasting while obtaining all the new stuff I need (bushings, rebuilt calipers, rotors, bearings, ball joints, tie rod ends). My car is still with my restorer but assuming I see it later this summer, my intent is to have everything ready for the front-end disc brake swap. My understanding is that although I have everything off the donor car, I only need the upper control arms and steering knuckles (and associated hardware) for the suspension part of the swap, correct? Thanks in advance!


Hi Gregg,
I don't remember if the lower control arms are different, but I used them anyway. Should be easy to see if the mounting points for the kingpins are different.
Please keep us posted on your progress.
Mikel


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