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$55,000 and No Air Conditioning!

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:45 am
by Otto Skorzeny
Are 1966 Toronados finally getting serious attention from collectors? Here's one for $55K and it doesn't even have ac.

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/car ... refer=blog

Beautiful car. Supposedly spent over $100,000 on the restoration. The engine rebuild cost more than my entire car. Will someone pay that much for it?

Re: $55,000 and No Air Conditioning!

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:15 am
by paxtonshelby1966
Wow - I could have bought 55 of mine at that price!

Re: $55,000 and No Air Conditioning!

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:41 pm
by Otto Skorzeny
I could buy 5 and half.

I think that's crazy, though. I don't think it's worth that much. I can't believe someone spent $100,000 restoring it.

I saw one on ebay that was equally nice , in my opinion, sell for $35K, I think. It had ac, too I believe.

Re: $55,000 and No Air Conditioning!

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:49 pm
by Otto Skorzeny
Here it is:

Ebay Listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Oldsmobile ... 7675.l2557

Forum thread : viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1561

This one sold for $35K and is fully loaded, unlike this $55K one. That guy is dreaming. Hagarty places value of a #1 '66 Toro at around $40K


Did you notice that the $100,000 restoration car has the lands and grooves on the rubber foot pad on the driver side running the wrong way? Obviously the original mat is not reproduced but if you're going to try to get close, at least cut the rubber with the correct orientation!

Dopes.

Re: $55,000 and No Air Conditioning!

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:31 pm
by Otto Skorzeny
Here's the $100,000 restoration with the incorrect rubber mat. I accept that you have to make do with what's available when certain parts are no longer made but he should have at least oriented the pattern in the same way as the original.

The photo above is the original rubber mat in my car.

Re: $55,000 and No Air Conditioning!

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:23 pm
by paxtonshelby1966
paxtonshelby1966 wrote:Wow - I could have bought 55 of mine at that price!


Sorry - I meant at the $100k figure. I got a good deal but I didn't steal her!

Re: $55,000 and No Air Conditioning!

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:40 am
by Otto Skorzeny
paxtonshelby1966 wrote:
paxtonshelby1966 wrote:Wow - I could have bought 55 of mine at that price!


Sorry - I meant at the $100k figure. I got a good deal but I didn't steal her!


OK, I was wondering about that. I thought that $1000 was a real bargain for a car that was mostly intact functional. Still, $1800 is a real bargain, too. Your car is in pretty nice shape, considering.

Re: $55,000 and No Air Conditioning!

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:00 am
by Doc Hubler
Those mats are hard to do anything with and they aren't reproduced. The 67 was yet again a little different from 66. I'm not sure what I'm going to do to get mine fixed up decently. They get hard and then for one thing, you can't get them off the floor without damaging them.

Re: $55,000 and No Air Conditioning!

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:55 am
by Otto Skorzeny
Right. I just think the person who restored the one for sale should have oriented the rubber so that the lands and grooves ran laterally as on the original rather than longitudinally as he did. It would have looked much closer to stock.

I'd like to find out where he got that rubber mat material, though.

As you can see in the photo, mine is so/so and has a small hole where the driver's heel rests so I'll be needing to do something in the future.

Re: $55,000 and No Air Conditioning!

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:00 am
by Doc Hubler
I don't really know without seeing the car, but spending huge money restoring these cars is what it takes. Don't make the argument until you've walked in those shoes. These cars are VERY expensive to restore.