Has anyone here used or heard of Empire Motors in El Paso Tx

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Has anyone here used or heard of Empire Motors in El Paso Tx

Postby pr129tbird » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:55 pm

Has anyone here hear of or used Empire Motors in El Pasp Tx.???? I recently got wind that they can reproduce the rear chrome pot metal taillight panel for the 1966-7 Toronado. He claims to have made the tool/dies for it and will make one upon request (TERMS: Upon receipt of cash, bank check, company check, wired funds etc.). Its quite expensive ($1500+ s&h) and I am sceptical about sending large sums of money to a stranger who dosn't even accept credit cards! They claim to reproduce LOTS of parts of many cars etc.. Anyone here ever use them or hear anything good OR bad? THANKS in advance!
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Re: Has anyone here used or heard of Empire Motors in El Pas

Postby Twilight Fenrir » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:39 am

pr129tbird wrote:Has anyone here hear of or used Empire Motors in El Pasp Tx.???? I recently got wind that they can reproduce the rear chrome pot metal taillight panel for the 1966-7 Toronado. He claims to have made the tool/dies for it and will make one upon request (TERMS: Upon receipt of cash, bank check, company check, wired funds etc.). Its quite expensive ($1500+ s&h) and I am sceptical about sending large sums of money to a stranger who dosn't even accept credit cards! They claim to reproduce LOTS of parts of many cars etc.. Anyone here ever use them or hear anything good OR bad? THANKS in advance!

Huh.... sounds intriguing... I know I need a better panel, but $1500 seems a bit steep.... Well, please let us know if you find out anything.
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In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011.
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Re: Has anyone here used or heard of Empire Motors in El Pas

Postby xgecko » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:00 am

Google is your friend... A google search turned up these very negative reviews It sounds like a scam.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508310

http://ytforums.ytmag.com/viewtopic.php?t=194155

http://www.ripoffreport.com/motor-vehicle/valor-blazer/valor-blazer-empire-motors-kee-47797.htm

http://www.bbb.org/elpaso/business-reviews/manufacturers-industrial/empire-motors-in-el-paso-tx-99124778
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In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011.
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Re: Has anyone here used or heard of Empire Motors in El Pas

Postby xgecko » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:26 am

See my response in the Technical Talk thread. A quick google search turns up quite a bit of evidence this is a major scam and quite a few folks appear to have lost some serious cash. I would stay away from them.
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Re: Has anyone here used or heard of Empire Motors in El Pas

Postby 69W34 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:50 pm

mmmm - yup, that pretty much says it all !!
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Postby pr129tbird » Tue May 01, 2012 10:43 am

I researched him after and found all the strikes against him. Knew it was too good to be true! :( Oh well. Guess I'll have to pay the $1000 to redo mine by a competent replater in show chrome. Least I will get something for my $1000 instead of NOTHING for $1650!!!
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Re: Has anyone here used or heard of Empire Motors in El Pas

Postby janeg » Wed May 02, 2012 6:36 am

Please do not do business with them. We have had members that have lost their money.
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Re: Has anyone here used or heard of Empire Motors in El Pas

Postby tadmin » Wed May 02, 2012 8:57 am

Threads merged. A double post is not necessary.
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Re: Has anyone here used or heard of Empire Motors in El Pas

Postby 1970w34 » Thu May 03, 2012 7:06 am

I had bought some armrest side pieces from him (Valor) many years ago and they seem to be decent and durable but they were very expensive and took many months to get them. He was surprised when I told him that those pieces were also applicable to the Riviera and Eldorado. I wonder if he marketed to them also and what those folks think.
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In Mid September of 2010 I happened to see a repeat of the show where Jay Leno did his 66 Toronado and had an instant remission of the disease which resulted in my purchase of a 1969 in very good condition. I am now in the process of fully rehabilitating it and hope to have it on the road in the spring of 2011.
Location: Gig Harbor, WA

Re: Has anyone here used or heard of Empire Motors in El Pas

Postby xgecko » Thu May 03, 2012 7:46 am

Be that as it may, given the evidence derived from the internet I would strongly suggest that people stay away.
I have my Fuel Injected Toronado. Life is good! 8-)
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