Thanks alot for the measurements! Just what I needed.
Yeah, I pulled my front speaker while the rest of my dash was still in... Not a pleasant, or easy task. Well worth the results however. Replaced it with a Retrosound Dual Voice speaker.
Amazing about the primer... I know that metal was all gone when I bought my '66 and I had to re-fab it.
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DO NOT use braided steel hose or line for the brake lines. The brake lines must be DOT approved brake line. Which is a double wall type of metal line. It dosnt seem like it, but a LOT of pressure builds up in these lines and an incorrect type line or hose could burst which could equal something TRAGIC!! Just looking out for you! As mentioned, whatever you use, make sure its approved for use as brake lines!
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Here is a progress report for those interested:
Front frame rails all cleaned up and painted.
Cowl panel all cleaned up and painted.
I just degreased an solvent cleaned the torsion bars. They have no rust or pitting and are indeed the green colour others have noted.
Next step is to install the brake and gas lines(stainless from ClassicTube)
Front frame rails all cleaned up and painted.
Cowl panel all cleaned up and painted.
I just degreased an solvent cleaned the torsion bars. They have no rust or pitting and are indeed the green colour others have noted.
Next step is to install the brake and gas lines(stainless from ClassicTube)
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Top of dash, as well as underneath the dash has been refinished.
I was very surprised to discover that there is not a stitch of primer or paint way up underneath the dash. I removed everything to gain access. There was very mild surface rust. I masked off the complete car with plastic. So I could lightly sandblast these areas without filling all the nooks and crannies full of sand. Lot of work to basically sandblast for 5 mins. Worth it though. Sand blasting sand flies everywhere.
I was very surprised to discover that there is not a stitch of primer or paint way up underneath the dash. I removed everything to gain access. There was very mild surface rust. I masked off the complete car with plastic. So I could lightly sandblast these areas without filling all the nooks and crannies full of sand. Lot of work to basically sandblast for 5 mins. Worth it though. Sand blasting sand flies everywhere.
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Underneath is also all ready to go.
All cleaned up ready for new:
brake lines
gas lines & hoses
shocks, all four
rebuilt gas tank sending unit
bushings for leaf spring, 3 for each spring and shackle
rear frame mounts.
All cleaned up ready for new:
brake lines
gas lines & hoses
shocks, all four
rebuilt gas tank sending unit
bushings for leaf spring, 3 for each spring and shackle
rear frame mounts.
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There is a ton of parts to put back on!
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Back endi s starting to come together
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A few more pictures for those interested
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In deep with my 68
Looks great, waiting to see those disk brakes. On my 79, I lift the
trans & final drive in as a set, supported by a front chain. Then the engine.
Bruce Roe
trans & final drive in as a set, supported by a front chain. Then the engine.
Bruce Roe
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Hey Bruce,
I will post a few pictures when my laptop returns from warranty repair. It has software to resize the pictures, required for this site.
I thought about installing the motor and tranny (with final drive) altogether as one unit. I also thought about installing just the tranny and final drive like you did. I finally decided to install it all separately.
The final drive was a bit of a bugger to get into place. I installed it after installing the motor. I lifted it into the engine compartment and onto a floor jack. I then just lifted into place. It was very difficult to install using the engine hoist. It was very difficult to achieve the proper angle as it kept swinging around. If I had todo it again,I would install tranny and drive together. I cannot believe how heavy the final drive is.
It's definetly taking a lot longer then I planned but I am not really in a big hurray. I'm at the age now, where I have learned to walk away when things start driving me crazy in the garage. Believe me there is a lot of unique aspects of theses cars that can drive one mad.
I love the car but it is definitely not the easiest model to work on.
I have restored quite a few cars over the years and would say this has been the most challenging. Most challenges relate to the front wheel drive aspect. However even the way the door hinges are situated make the doors that much more difficult to adjust, once the fenders are back on.
There is a few more things that also come to mind, such as the upper dash and dash pad. The difficulty of installing the tranny with the heater box on. On and on it goes.
I will post a few pictures when my laptop returns from warranty repair. It has software to resize the pictures, required for this site.
I thought about installing the motor and tranny (with final drive) altogether as one unit. I also thought about installing just the tranny and final drive like you did. I finally decided to install it all separately.
The final drive was a bit of a bugger to get into place. I installed it after installing the motor. I lifted it into the engine compartment and onto a floor jack. I then just lifted into place. It was very difficult to install using the engine hoist. It was very difficult to achieve the proper angle as it kept swinging around. If I had todo it again,I would install tranny and drive together. I cannot believe how heavy the final drive is.
It's definetly taking a lot longer then I planned but I am not really in a big hurray. I'm at the age now, where I have learned to walk away when things start driving me crazy in the garage. Believe me there is a lot of unique aspects of theses cars that can drive one mad.
I love the car but it is definitely not the easiest model to work on.
I have restored quite a few cars over the years and would say this has been the most challenging. Most challenges relate to the front wheel drive aspect. However even the way the door hinges are situated make the doors that much more difficult to adjust, once the fenders are back on.
There is a few more things that also come to mind, such as the upper dash and dash pad. The difficulty of installing the tranny with the heater box on. On and on it goes.
Cheers, Jim
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