Otto,
Regarding the 66/67 vinyl top observation, my wife says "amen, brother". She's been on me to ditch the top for the very same reasons you pointed out. You guys been talkin' or what?!
Don't shave the door handles? Awwww, c'mon...it'll look pretty cool like that!
Input Requested: '67 Resto Personalization
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Re: Input Requested: '67 Resto Personalization
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- Otto Skorzeny
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Re: Input Requested: '67 Resto Personalization
Talkin'...er, ya, that's it...talkin'!
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See how smooth that is?
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Keep it up, guys, and I'll put a vinyl top on just cuz no one else has one.
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Hey! How about making it a convertible?
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I already started my 67 convertible! Going to be cool!
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Seriously? Or was the top cut off due to rust or whatever and a new one is going back on? Is this the same car you've posted about before or a different one?
I was looking at mine today to figure out where the cut would be made. Not doing it, just curious.
I was guessing that it would have to follow the stainless molding of the vinyl top. It looks like it would look good it the top can be concealed but would look awkward if the folded top sat up there like a VW Beetle.
What would it look like with the top up? Depends on who does the work. Most factory 'verts don't look so hot with the tops up either, though.
Do you have an artists rendering of the final product for us to look at, Doc?
Is that yellow car a hearse?
I was looking at mine today to figure out where the cut would be made. Not doing it, just curious.
I was guessing that it would have to follow the stainless molding of the vinyl top. It looks like it would look good it the top can be concealed but would look awkward if the folded top sat up there like a VW Beetle.
What would it look like with the top up? Depends on who does the work. Most factory 'verts don't look so hot with the tops up either, though.
Do you have an artists rendering of the final product for us to look at, Doc?
Is that yellow car a hearse?
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I was just kidding. This was the 67 parts car that donated the top to my 67 Toro. Actually, all we needed was the steel roof, which is shared with other E-body GM cars (about the only thing it seems) Riviera and Eldorado. THe floor was too rusted out, the engine destroyed, and some dork had tried to yank the engine out improperly and destroyed the aluminum tranny housing (I still have that for parts). But when we cut this off I though, I wonder what a convertible Toro would look like. Of course there is the 1967 Mannix Toronado convertible by George Barris that I bet you've seen. Actually, kind of ugly in my view.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIjocpX9euk
The gray coupe is my 1941 Hudson business coupe. The yellow vehicle is a 1939 Bender Hearse. Rare car that was going to be restored, but the people backed out. Getting a car like that done in black and make it look correct is going to take a lot of time and there for money. Maybe it will come back some day. I did a full research into that car and it is very unique with the ventilation system. Bender Body Co. built these hearses exclusively on Studebaker chassis from 1938-1940. They used both Commander and President chassis. Ambulances, hearses, and combination cars. This particular car was a 1939 version. By late 1939, they had dropped the fancy ventilation system which was more for the ambulance series anyway (why ventilate a hearse with a casket unless you forgot the casket was in the hearse?). Bender Body co produced some other notable vehicles, mainly the original Gear Jammers for Yellowstone and Glacier National Parks beginning in 1936 (built on White Motor truck chassis with grille design by Alexis de Sakhnovsky). yellow buses for Yellowstone, red for Glacier. Even the Pendleton woolen mills, nearby where I live, made special wool blankets for each of the buses (the tops were open for sightseers). I also attached some ventilation pictures on the hearse. Air intakes just above windshield. Air escapes out the vents on top of the cab.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIjocpX9euk
The gray coupe is my 1941 Hudson business coupe. The yellow vehicle is a 1939 Bender Hearse. Rare car that was going to be restored, but the people backed out. Getting a car like that done in black and make it look correct is going to take a lot of time and there for money. Maybe it will come back some day. I did a full research into that car and it is very unique with the ventilation system. Bender Body Co. built these hearses exclusively on Studebaker chassis from 1938-1940. They used both Commander and President chassis. Ambulances, hearses, and combination cars. This particular car was a 1939 version. By late 1939, they had dropped the fancy ventilation system which was more for the ambulance series anyway (why ventilate a hearse with a casket unless you forgot the casket was in the hearse?). Bender Body co produced some other notable vehicles, mainly the original Gear Jammers for Yellowstone and Glacier National Parks beginning in 1936 (built on White Motor truck chassis with grille design by Alexis de Sakhnovsky). yellow buses for Yellowstone, red for Glacier. Even the Pendleton woolen mills, nearby where I live, made special wool blankets for each of the buses (the tops were open for sightseers). I also attached some ventilation pictures on the hearse. Air intakes just above windshield. Air escapes out the vents on top of the cab.
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1939 Bender hearse on President chassis (the yellow one at my place is a Commander). It has dual sidemounts. Located in New Zealand I think. White one is a 1940 ambulance. Not how they had down away with the fancy ventilation system by then.
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Re: Input Requested: '67 Resto Personalization
To go back to the OP.
Even though the '67 is more "Rare" than the '66 there are plenty of show quality examples out there.
I say it's your car , do whatever you want. Just know that a stock or original car will most often sell for more than a custom.
If you watch the Velocity channel auctions for long you would believe there are few 60's cars that have not been restomodded and that there is big money in doing it.
The pros might make money on it but I doubt any of us private car guys will ever turn a profit on any of our cars, custom or not.
Enjoy your car, don't worry about what anybody else or the resale market thinks.
Even though the '67 is more "Rare" than the '66 there are plenty of show quality examples out there.
I say it's your car , do whatever you want. Just know that a stock or original car will most often sell for more than a custom.
If you watch the Velocity channel auctions for long you would believe there are few 60's cars that have not been restomodded and that there is big money in doing it.
The pros might make money on it but I doubt any of us private car guys will ever turn a profit on any of our cars, custom or not.
Enjoy your car, don't worry about what anybody else or the resale market thinks.
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